The new normal

Tomorrow Comes Today: The St. James’s Place podcast

Episode Two: The new normal

How does sleeping help us make smarter decisions? Will working from home challenge the need for big cities? What can history teach us about the journey from crisis to ‘new normal’? In this special recorded-under-lockdown episode, hosts Matt Potter and Rob Gardner meet the people whose job it is to help turn those crises into opportunities.

We meet legendary crisis comms specialist Phil Hall – the man CEOs, companies and celebrities have on speed-dial for when it all hits the fan – who reveals what we can all learn from recent big business successes – and failures. From Melbourne, veteran investment fund manager Michael Stapleton tells how wise investors can emerge stronger from dips by focusing on a few fundamental truths. And from Cape Town, leadership coach Lani Carstens reveals the techniques that help the best leaders find their true north – and stay calm and focused – when the chips are down.

Presenters: Rob Gardner, Matt Potter

Producers: Nathan Copelin, Sera Berksoy

Assistant Producers: Chris Marais, James Hedley

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